Copyright Troll Craig B. Sanders of Sanders Law, P.L.L.C. overruns court system

There is sure to be much more commentary on this latest troll Sanders Law, P.L.L.C. Seems they have filed over 100 copyright infringement suits as of late over posting of celebrity photos, many of these postings have been on forum type sites, where 3rd party users have the ability to upload images, and some of these sites clearly have DMCA Registered Agents, But Sanders Law doesn’t care to do the footwork required under DMCA, they just go ahead and file suit. I wonder how long it will be before the courts see these asshats as trolls? We all know fair-use is a pretty grey area, but I’d be willing to bet that some of these cases will fail based on fair use, never mind the fact that Sanders Law P.L.L.C. doesn’t adhere to the rule governing DMCA, but many of these forum type sites are commenting on shows, actors, actresses, which “might” be fair use.. Much more to come, as I’ve just begun digging into this..As a side note it looks like BWP Media Inc. is a fairly new company and doing business as Pacific Coast News and National Photo Group, LLC . National Photo Group, LLC is already known in the copyright troll circles.


sanders-logoCraig B. Sanders
Sanders Law, P.L.L.C.
100 Garden City Plaza, Suite 500
Garden City, New York 11530

Tel: 855-643-9884
Tel: 516-203-7600
Fax: 516-281-7601

eMail: info@sanderslawpllc.com

http://www.sanderslawpllc.com/attorneys/ ( notice how these dirt-bags don’t show their faces?? (interesting given the fact he has filed over 100 suits in the last few months)


Other Sanders Law, P.L.L.C. references:

http://www.iptrademarkattorney.com/2013/08/attorney-copyright-troll-infringement-photo-agency-bwp-dmca-17-usc-512-safe-harbor.html

http://www.miamiintellectualpropertyblog.com/2013/07/bwp-media-claims-third-party-posting-grounds-for-lawsuit.shtml

http://www.halforums.com/xenforo/threads/copyright-troll-alert.29642/

http://theunrulyoflaw.blogspot.com/2013/07/smackdown-between-amazon-copyright-troll.html

http://www.natlawreview.com/article/recent-copyright-cases-filed-georgia-district-courts

California State Bar: http://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Member/Detail/284397


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75 Comments

  1. I will be interested to hear what you find. I am one of the many currently caught in this apparent scheme. I am talking with as many others as possible to find out what I can do about it and what kind of situation I am in. The person I received notice from is not Craig B. Sanders but he does represent BWP.

  2. I have also just got a second & final notice from Craig B. Sanders when this is the first letter I have received. I already removed the image. My site is not a registered business. I do host google ads but I have made little to no profits from the website. Still doing more research before contacting them.

  3. I just received a notice from Craig B. Sanders last week. The images I used were even linked to the original source where I got them. Anyone have updates on this troll?

    • Actually haven’t heard much of this troll latey, but I see from your post that they are still at it..Couple of questions.
      1. do you have a registered agent on your site?
      2. did you link to the images from an outside source? if so “linking is not considered infringement..see google v perfect10 for the ruling.

      You can check PACER to see if they have filed any lawsuits recently.

      • 1. No. And my site has been “shut down”, put on hiatus, so no new posts – since March 2013.
        2. I did link to the images from the outside source.

        I have since taken down the site entirely.

        • well if you linked to the image(s) and did not upload them, they have no case, simple as that. If you uploaded them, and also gave a link, there could be an issue. Either way chances are good they will hound you for some sort of payment..

          • The images existed on my site, but if you clicked on them, they linked directly to the source (which is of course no longer available.)

            Because of the way WordPress operates, the image is hosted on my site, but the image is sourced to the original location.

            Either way, the page on which these images existed is taken down.

            Since the notice wasn’t sent via certified mail, I’m tempted to just ignore it for now.

  4. I am dealing with Sanders Law as well and my situation is very similar to yours, Mike. They have given me until tomorrow to settle before they file a lawsuit. This situation began in May and just three months later they are ready to take action.

      • So I paid Sander’s law the 500 dollars and then without a trace, they disappeared. The lady who had been contacting me no longer responds to my emails, and I am still waiting to receive any settlement paperwork which I was told would be received “two weeks after payment cleared” (so ten days ago).

        When I made the payment (via paypal mind you), the paralegal’s name that I had been in contact with was not on the receipt, it was the same Craig that I have heard people mentioning in previous posts.

        I don’t want to offer faulty advice, but I feel as if I had never responded to the voicemail they left me initially and volunteered my email address, they would have left me alone.

        All-in-all I think Sanders Law is bottom feeding scum, however, they do occasionally sue so its hard to say ignore these succubi. I am going to go ahead and say of the 100’s of cases they file, the ones the people that settled were the ones that didn’t want to deal with the threat of lawsuit anymore. I wish the people whose cases were resolved without settlement or lawsuit would come forward so more people like us could have more ammunition/information to combat this with.

        I can share more info from my case if necessary to all who are dealing with this right now.

  5. We received a letter from Sanders back in October. The celebrity image we received was taken by an authorized prop house, via one of our advertisers whose product they were wearing. We posted the celebrity image and receive a letter in October of 2013. We responded by taking down the post, let them know we had done so.
    Now in August of 2014, we received another letter from a paralegal at Sanders requesting a phone call to resolve the issue. 9 months later?
    I don’t want to call.. any other advice?

    • The question here is does the “prop house” or “advertisers” have permission to transfer the image to you, as an advertiser they should step up to the plate and assist you with this matter, then again who knows if the advertiser even has permission to use the image..

      • I contacted our advertiser to let them know, but had let them know last year. Have not contacted the prop house but will do so today. The prop house sent the image to our advertiser as the celeb was wearing one of their products in the movies. To make it even more complication, we have new marketing managers at our advertisers.

    • What is the name of the paralegal that contacted you? I received a notice yesterday and talked to her, she offered to lower the “fine” but not excuse it totally. Lots of articles online about this being a scam, I called the BBB in NY and they confirmed it is a scam.

      • I wouldn’t be so fast to trust the BBB, they have no legal standing, do more homework, get more educated, Sanders has been known to file lawsuits. I’m not saying he would win, but it would be a time suck, money suck to have to answer to a suit. At the very least if you are educated and have researched the image in question, and done due diligence, you can better gauge the chances of being served and the chances of a suit being filed in the first place.

  6. Hello, in July I received a letter via mail, and it was from Sanders Law, saying that I had violated the copy rights of two images, which seemed very weird because I had gotten those pictures from another website, I linked the original links to the website where I found the pictures. In the letter, it said that I had to contact them to resolve the problem and pay them for the violation of the pictures. The pictures were taken in April and it seemed strange to me that until July they sent me the letter. So my dad’s lawyer recommended me to send them a letter (simple sentence letter) saying that I had removed the photos. A week later I received an email saying that by taking them down didn’t do any good, that they still wanted me to contact them so I could “settle down” my situation. So, I did some research on this sort of stuff, and luckily I found your page and another lady’s page where both of you said that they were scams. The lady on her page said that her friend had received an email, the same day as I received my letter, which I found interesting, saying the same thing they said to me in the letter, with the exception that she had gotten the pictures with the copyrights. So I told that to my dads lawyer and he said that I should ignore them from now on. But today, August 26, I received an email from one of the paralegals saying that they haven’t received anything from me and that they had found a new picture that had no copyrights, which is funny because I have now shut down my site and sold the domain.

    I’m the email they sent today, they say this: “…We have been authorized to commence litigation against you should fail to timely resolve this matter. Please be further advised that once we commence such litigation, we will seek the maximum statutory damages available to our client, and will start to accrue legal costs and attorney’s fees for which you may ultimately be responsible. This letter is without prejudice to all rights and remedies afforded our client under statute and common law, all of which are expressly reserved.”

    Honestly right now, I am really concerned, more scared actually, but I don’t know what to believe now if it is something real or if it is just a scam. I read above that you said that by email it is not the way to handle legal matters, which that gives me a little of relief, I hope you can help me out understand this a little better and if I should let my dad’s lawyer take this into his hands.

    Thank you for your time and I’m so sorry of this is so long.

    • It’s not a “scam” in any sense..If I were you I would visit the forums on extortionletterinfo.com to get more info, as Sanders has been widely discussed.. You will most likely eed to speak with an IP attorney, if you “dads lawyer” is not an IP lawyer, he most likely is not up to speed on these types of issues..kinda like hiring a painter to fix your plumbing problem. These trolls look for low hanging fruit that get scared and make rash decisions, don’t be one of those, get educated, research the image in question, find out if it is properly registered, and to whom. You will most likely have to pay something at some point, since you publicly admitted getting the image from another website ( hence copying)…a link back or credit does not excuse you from the infringement. But you do have options.

      • Okay, and just in case I decide to contact someone from the website you gave me, are they really good IP Lawyers? If not could you recommend me someone who is a good IP Lawyer? I believe that his lawyer isn’t up to date with this kind of stuff. This may sound stupid, I am so lost right now, but do you know where I could find all that information about the picture? I’m just scared that I might have to pay a lot of money, and that is something I don’t want to do, but if the IP Lawyers from the website you gave me are good, then that will give me a little relief.

        Thank you for your help.

        • Oscar Michelen over on ELI has been dealing with these types of issues with us for over 6 yrs now, post your story on the foum, and you’ll get good feedback. As for the image, you would need to search the US copyright data-base, you can also search the web to see if the image appears elsewhere, and if it is for sale elsewhere. Sanders may not have exclusive rights to this image.

    • What is the status of you issue now? I have gone through the same thing, nearly the same timeline as well. I just received another notice from Sanders this morning. I have been ignoring them so far, my association cannot afford a legal mess but from all accounts I read this is a scam, wish I knew for certain.

      • Our update. We settled with them for $1500. Technically and by law we were in the wrong. It was not fair use, it was not educational yada, yada. The reason why I think our costs were high is according to them, we were a popular site and had advertisers and could afford to pay them. My response back was that they didn’t know the different between an ad and google adsense, which is pretty much no $$$.
        I did consult a local copywrite attorney about the matter. He said, if you can’t sleep at night, negioate a payment, with them. They will sue, because they have to to prove points.

        • That’s really unfortunate, this only serves the trolls and allows them to continue, chances are very good they never would have sued you, as it would have been an uphill battle for them, and it would have cost them way more they they would have ever collected. Given the statements you made of how the image came to be on your site, at worst a judge would have ruled it innocent infringement and awarded the minimum 200.00.. oh well the party continues, and you can sleep at night knowing it is behind you.

      • please consider visiting extortionletterinfo.com to get more in depth information, we have forums there where many people input their thoughts and ideas.Without knowing all of the details of your case it is hard to offer up solid advice.

  7. I own a website that exposes online fraud and Nigerian type scam emails. I received an email from this Sanders Law a few days ago, claiming there is an image on my site they hold the copyright to. The image is actually of a public building in Washington DC, and I didn’t upload it, it was part of a phony FBI heading in an email sent to me in an attempted scam. I simply copied and pasted the entire scam email, which included the image. However, the image in question is much darker in the scam email and only slightly resembles the image they claim to own. Since it’s a building, a lot of pictures of it would resemble one another.

    I did email them out of curiosity, and explained to them that I do not live in the US, and have not for many years. My site is registered to my mothers home, and she has passed away, thus its empty. They claim that I need to pay them $750, which simply isn’t going to happen. Someone needs to do something about this scam.

  8. I am currently in talks with the New York State Bar concerning what I consider their extortion tactics to secure settlements for their clients. I am hoping the Bar will investigate their practices and possibly disbar them. I will also be filing a complaint against them with the New York Disciplinary Committee as well.

    If you guys wish to join in so that we can get them disbarred and run out of business then the address to contact for the New York Disciplinary board is below. The more complaints received the better the chances that the courts will launch an investigation of them.

    Departmental Disciplinary Committee
    Supreme Court, Appellate Division
    First Judicial Department
    61 Broadway, 2nd Floor
    New York, NY 10006

  9. I was hit with this today. It was very scary. I run a fan site about DC comics and they contacted me about a paparazzi like shot of the flash (from the tv show). We linked to the site who posted it and sourced to that site. They did not issue a DMCA just a letter that says email or call and settle. What should I do?

    • did you link to the image or was the image uploaded to your servers? Big difference between the 2. If it was hosted on your servers, the link and attribution mean nothing. What you need to do is get educated first and foremost, no one can tell you “what you should do” that will be solely your decision, once you get a handle on your options. There is much more info on the forums at extortionletterinfo.com, I suggest you visit there to get a crash course.

      • I just received the same notice today from Sanders about a candid pic of the flash also … They appear to be going after everyone who isn’t a major corporation … The pic they allege i used is all over tumblr and other major sites … Sanders is specifically targeting people they know can’t afford legal defense.

        The really sad thing is I shut the blog down 2 days ago because it was costing too much money to run and have fallen back to using tumblr.

  10. I also received a letter from Sanders today about an image on my website. I went back and double checked and the images are linked to the source and NOT uploaded on the server. I have been doing a lot of reading this evening on this site and and extortionletterinfo.com. I have also been in contact with the site I got the images from. They have not been contacted by Sanders, at least not yet.

    • simply put they have NO case, “linking” is not considered infringement, per perfect10 v google. One of the biggest issues I have with these assholes, is that they don’t bother to do any fact checking whatsoever, they just send out letters, a simple veiw of the source code of your page would indicate the image was hosted elsewhere, hence you did not “copy”.. They rely on the fact that most people are ignorant of the law and will simply pay when faced with the threat of a lawsuit..It’s a numbers game to them. I wouldn’t even bother contacting the artist, as you did not copy anything, and you don’t need permission to link to anything.

  11. I have done some digging and am in the process of contacting the legal owner of the images I used to see if they are truly being represented by Sanders. The site I hotlinked my images from say they had the original photographer’s permission to use the images.

    • What did you find out? The letter I got claimed that fameflynet inc owns the one photo I used. The lady I talked to said it didnt matter that we linked to the photo and didn’t host it ourselves she said she had proof we did and we owed $750 for the days it went up. I said this was too much she said she would contact the photographer and ask for a lower settlement. She got back to me and said I could pay pal $500 to settle.

      • I still believe they are trying to intimidate you Mark. I have not contacted them at all and I do not intend to unless I get anything further from them. I’ve done quite a bit of research since I got their letter. Although linking is not looked favorably, it is NOT illegal in spite of what they are telling you. The fact that they are asking or even accepting a payment through PayPal is sketchy.

        I cannot tell you what you should do Mark, but I would not pay them. I have talked to some attorney friends and they suggested that I just sit tight, do not contact anyone, especially them until when/if I get anything else from them.

        • I received several such emails and I’ve ignored them. I spoke with a friend that is a copyright attorney (formerly with Microsoft), and he said it’s just a scam to scare people into sending the money. They would have to prove damages to be awarded money; so unless your sites bringing in big bucks using their images, there is no damage. I’ve not seen any proof they represent the people that do own the images. Ironically, my site is all about internet scams and frauds. It generates no money whatsoever. The image I had posted was actually included in a scam email from Nigeria; I simply posted the email just as I had received it.

          • They could only go after damages IF the images are properly registered with the US copyright office, then they would have to prove those damages, but they can still file suit and be awarded some amount, most likely the minimum of 200.00..Then again if we’re talking about images linked from somewhere else, they would collect nada, as it is not infringement. as “scammy” as it sounds and appears, the trolls tend to walk a very fine line to what is actually legal.

          • What also seems fishy to me is that according to the very letter they sent me, they didn’t apply for a copyright on the images until a month AFTER I linked them on my site. Wouldn’t there have to be some sort of warning?

            This entire matter screams SCAM…from the letter NOT being signed right down to them asking for PayPal payments.

          • They have 90 days from the date of discovering the alledeged infringement to properly register the image, then they can proceed with attempting to file suit and include damages, without registration they loose the statutory portion and the amount would be much lower. There would not have to be any “warning”, just like there is no provision in the current law that say a n image muct be watermarked, or that a cease and desist must be sent first/ ( unless you have a registered agent, in which case a cease and desist is mandatory first and foremeost). I certainly agree the whole thing sounds, and looks scammy, BUT again what they do is legal, they play the system looking for low hanging fruit that get wigged out with the threat of a lawsuit..it’s a numbers game to them and you’d be surprised how many ignorant and “dumb” people pay them to make it go away. These fducktards at Sanders Law P.L.L.C have a complete side business, which they conveniently do not mention on their other website, which to me speaks volumes as to what douchebags they really are.

  12. I just got a letter from Sanders today about an image I used (via Popshops) for affiliate marketing on a blog post. I’m assuming that the affiliate company had permission to use this image since they sell the clothing that stars are shown wearing. I sent the affiliate an email stating what happened. Sanders addressed it to my llc, luckily I guess.

    Should I call the number or wait for the affiliate to respond?
    thanks

    • I would NOT contact them, contact the affiliate as they are responsible. was the image in question hosted on your servers or was it brought into the site via an affiliate link? If the latter you did not infringe in any way as the courts have ruled that “linking” is not an infringement.

      • It had been on both sites at one time. I am not sure if they were addressing the linked to image on another server.

        The letter itself was odd since it was sent via USPS first class and had a had a bulk mailing bar on the bottom. Gets me wondering how many people get these letters, how many respond to them, etc.

        I appreciate your help and the links that you have provided.

    • I got a letter in the mail very recently about a old blog post from 4 years ago. They didn’t even sign my letter I noticed. Did they sign your letter?

      • No and the image they mentioned was one hosted on a site of a store I was promoting on behalf of. It was weird. Check out the forum posts via the links above and you will see what others are saying.

  13. I have also received a letter in the mail and I’m not sure what to do about it. The image was posted (and unfortunately, uploaded) years ago. I’ve deleted the content from my site and Blogger’s image hosting service. Since it was posted on such a small site, I don’t have a DCMA agent or anything like that. The photo was used for discussion, but obviously there is a lot of dispute when it comes to fair use.

    Am I screwed since it was uploaded? Should I contact a lawyer or just wait for them to file suit? It seems like they will be very likely to file suit, as they have done so for hundreds of cases. I really don’t want anything to be filed.

    • yes they file often, so there is that chance.. I would consider visiting extortionletterinfo.com and look at the defense letter program, it might be the easiest solution for you, without costing an arm and a leg..

  14. me to I have also received a letter in the mail from bwp i didn’t open it because in back of my mind i felt it was junk mail. and didn’t wanna even bother open it. i forum a LLC TO protect my living just like anyone. but my wife was clean up the house and found the letter/mail which i wish i should of throw away. she open it reddit and freak out, @ first i did to, until i found this page. The Letter claim i violate copyrights and needed me to call them. They claim i that had a image on my website that they owed.
    The image in ? came was from a youtube video which was upload bye a user on my site that hasn’t been online for months. i didn’t know it was copyright violation in reposing a video which came for youtube which was posted bye someone else. i wasn’t monitoring the site cuz i wasn’t making any money from it. it was just a something i setup to learn wordpress and html. trying to find a career in website. the wordpess post was added in june. they took a snap shot in july. they claim the had copyright too image in September. They Re looked in there words @ the post in October i receive the letter in January. i couldn’t pay for hosting in November therefor the site was down for the last 3 months , what should i do. call them bitch them out or just pretend i never got it. i call a local paralegal they told me to write a letter stating i was unaware of the violation in ? and say i’m sorry.
    any advice guys?????

      • Yea! It was a embed video from youtube, my blog capture the thumbnail image from that video, and original video was most likely remove. The post was made my another user, i remove my blog site months ago. This BWP Claim got me a lil worried, I call a lawyer friend. She said dont pay them, dont address them. let them file the suit, they will have to file in my state in order to have jurisdiction over my person, let them know i will file a counterclaim, she advised me that they cant serve me, without papers and they wont be able to process with a lawsuit. So we will see what happens.

  15. I got one of these BWP letters a few days ago and made the mistake of emailing them (as well as immediately pulling the image in question) and having a follow up phone call. I did host the image in question on my site (purely to resize it into a gallery) and sourced it to JustJared.com, where I got it, but I had no idea the image was copyrighted (just a JustJared.com watermark on it that I left on it) and no ill will was involved in publishing it on the blog.

    They detected the image Dec 9 per the letter I received, a month after it was published. I did not receive the letter in the mail wanting damages until nearly two months later. No cease and desist or removal of the image letter was ever sent, just the law firm letter in the mail this week.

    On the phone the paralegal — not an attorney, mind you — told me that because my site has a “good” Alexa rating and ads on it that I owe around $2k for damages. I said the article has 580 total page views over the past three months and that display ad revenue on that was just a few bucks, and that my site is a hobby site and not my primary income. That was the end of that call. 10 minutes later she called back and said her client, Pacific Coast News, wants $1,800 and that’s as low as they’ll go. I said fine and they sent me an email with paypal via their website (they actually set up a payment portal for this crap) or check instructions.

    After online research I applied to extortionletterinfo.com forums (waiting for approval) and sent a follow up email last night telling them I won’t be sending $1,800 right now and want to speak with an attorney first to know my rights. I haven’t heard back yet but I suspect they’ll file a suit against me. I want to make sure I’m ready for that.

    Here are the contents of that email:

    “After further research into this topic including prior documented instances at other web outlets, I have decided that I need to better understand my rights in this matter of being targeted for copyright infringement and a quick and easy settlement by your firm and client, as well as the legal parameters, especially considering the advertising revenue from the article in question was a fraction of the arbitrary amount your client is seeking in damages, the image was not published with ill intent or knowledge of it being copyrighted, no visible copyright mark appearing on the image, and no image take down/cease and desist request was made by the image owner or anyone else before damages were sought.

    As such, I do not agree to this settlement at this time. I need to conduct additional due diligence and consult with an attorney to better understand my position and rights.”

    Thoughts?

    • Rather than getting into a lengthy response, I’ll simply drop some nuggets.

      quick facts:
      1. no cease and desist is required, that’s more of a professional courtesy, which the trolls don’t have.
      2. copyright notice/watermark is not required either.. I don’t have my name emblazoned on my car, but i still own it.
      3. the statute of limitations is 3 years, so considering you got the image 2 months later, is actually pretty quick.
      4. regardless of any income generated or page views, if there are ads shown, the trolls consider this “commercial”
      5. adding the “source” to images really doesn’t mean much from a legal standpoint
      6. size of the image “may” come into play in a court of law, but then again “maybe not”
      7. Alexa rankings mean nothing in the grand scheme of things

      Do’s and Don’ts – might be a little late for some of these..

      1. DO take the image down, you can easily say you have removed the image in question, while you research the matter, without admitting guilt
      2. Don’t admit to anything in a public forum ( this site for example, the trolls visit on a regular basis and most likely already have a screen capture of your statements)
      3. Don’t make that phone call! Most will likely end up saying things that don’t help their case!
      4. DO speak to an attorney who specializes in IP /Copyright Law Don’t consult with an ambulance chaser or a friend of a friends attorney who practices family law for example. I mean would you go to a proctologist for a tooth ache? I think not!
      5. DO get educated in the world of copyright
      6. Do remove any other images form your site/sites, that you don not have a valid license for, lest other trolls come a knockin.
      7. Do research the image in question,
      A. Is it properly registered with the copyright office?
      B. Does Sanders law have the authority to enforce copyright?
      c. Does pacific Coast News / BWP Media own the image in question

      Now for the positives as there are a couple.
      1. you removed the image in good faith, a judge would most likely look kindly upon this
      2. the image was watermarked with a different source, which you left on the image ( chances are good justjared will be getting a letter as well) again a judge may consider this to be a “innocent infringement”, thus reducing any damages awarded

      Sanders has been known to be “sloppy” in a previous court case ( there is a comment about this on this post somewhere) so you also have that on your side IF they decide to file a lawsuit.. remember IF they file suit, it’s going to cost them money, they would surely rather settle before going to court, especially if there is even the slightest chance they may lose. IMHO just by sourcing the image puts you in a better position then if you did not do this, they aren’t going to want to spen 495.00 to file opnly to have a judge award the minimum amount of 200.00, while it would be a “win” on paper they could brag about, it would still be a loss.

      • Thanks for the note, Robert. I removed the image in question from the webpage and web server immediately upon receipt of the letter a few days ago. It’s gone. That’s precisely what I would have done had I received a cease and desist letter instead of a troll extortion letter. This is what irks me the most — the lack of professional courtesy.

        At this point I won’t personally be responding to them. Future communication will come from an attorney. I fully expect they’ll see this thread.

        I tried researching the photo ID number and application number for the image from the initial letter at the copyright.gov website but couldn’t find it. That’s not to say it isn’t registered with the copyright office, but I did want to see a registration date. I will let an attorney guide me in this area.

        I found a couple other older posts with similar type images and removed those outright as well. Future posts will hotlink to any questionable images and not host them.

        I presumed an innocent infringement and minimum award after reading about the code they referenced:

        http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/504

        At this point it looks as if this matter is best handled by an attorney and not little old me. Thanks for the tips.

      • Robert,

        Thank you so much for all of your comments here! I received one of these oh so fun letters and I will be taking action. I wish more of us would fight this, which leads me to my first question: is there a way of contacting all those 100 cases that Sanders has filed? Aka is there public record somewhere on where to get in touch with everyone so that we may appeal together?

        Also, what is a standard response to these people that would stop them? Threaten to declare bankruptcy? Mention I might have free legal counsel from an attorney of a friend who was similarly taken (this is actually true)?

        Please advise.

        Thank you!

        • you can get all of the dockets @ pacer.gov, anyone can have an account, it would be costly @ .10 per page, as there are many pages to each case, in any case you can’t “all appeal” anything if you are not party to the case. In order for that to happen someone would have to file a “class action” lawsuit, which would be very costly upfront and there is also the chance that a judge would not deem the cases class action worthy..so money spent, nothing gained. Hopefully at least some of those 100 will actually fight back, but thats not the norm, most of these settle before going the distance, which in essence lets the trolls “win”. The standard response to get them to stop harassing you is tyo simply pay them, they will keep at it for up to 3 yrs which is the statute of limitations, if they continue after that time, you can then easily report the attorneys to the state bars in which they belong, and perhaps the states attorney general.

          • Thank you again for all the info! So would you suggest ignoring the harassing for 3 years? Has this Sanders firm actually paid the $350 yet to file an offical suit?

          • Sanders has filed over 100 suits, they have a boatload invested, I doubt they will win all of them, they may “win” some of them, but my guess is most will settle before going the distance. And keep in mind that even if the “win” and get a judgement, that doesn’t mean they will necessarily collect, that’s a whole different ball game. For example if they were to sue me, they would collect very little to nothing as my company has very few assets or money on hand. I suggest getting educated first and foremost, then assessing your situation and making a decision from there. Each case is obviously different, with the number of images, your location, if the image is properly registered, etc…

  16. I’m surprised by how many of these BWP Media cases are exploding everywhere. I’m an attorney representing a few people who have been sued by these people, and in one case I was successful in getting the case dismissed.Right now my motion for an award of attorneys fees is pending before the District Court. Will let you know what happens.

  17. I personally know these Jack offs and the entire family are pieces of garbage
    Thankfully, there is a genetic issue in the family so we can only hope the bloodline of slime does not continue
    From Stanley the disgusting post indicted father to phyllis the animal of a mother to the closeted kid and their wives,,,… This is a clan of disgust

    • After settling with Sanders about the copyright in Dec. 2014 they just sent ANOTHER letter with the same image. SAME issue. Can I countersue them for harassment?

      • Cathy,

        Do NOT pay them! They harassed me forever and then I went and got a lawyer and magically they disappeared. I did not have to pay a cent. The min they see you have gotten legal representation they disappear. Do NOT pay them again or this will never end. Better to save your money and pay for actual legal representation.

        Hope this helps but be smarter!

        • While i agree to Not pay them, until you are fully educated to the consequences of doing so, these trolls don’t always disappear, many times they do, but it’s still a calculated risk depending on who the letter comes from.

      • Thats nufortunate that you “settled” with them, chances are slim they would have filed suit.. In regards to your question, you can counter-sue them for anything, but they have to file suit first, which they have not.. I would simply ignore this second letter, if they do file suit, then consider if you want to spend the extra time, money & energy to counter sue.. you might prevail in a counter suit, IF this second letter is for the same image, used on the same site ect..

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